US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

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US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby GassmannP » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:50 pm

Hi All

I have 3 registered covers from Argentina to Switzerland, censored in San Juan, which have number stamps on the back. Does anyone have an idea about the source and meaning of these number stamps?

Cover 1:
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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby GassmannP » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:51 pm

Cover 2:
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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby GassmannP » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:52 pm

Cover 3:
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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby LuzA » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:42 pm

Good evening,

Is it possible to see if the red number is over or under the Neuhausen datestamp? (Or even over or under the brown vertical ink zone).

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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby GassmannP » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:11 pm

hmm, the Neuhausen postmark is on top of everything (applied as last marking)

The blue (crayon) markings have been applied before the sealing tape, but after the red number (on top of the red number, goes below the sealing tape)

The red number has been applied after the chemical ink markings, but before the blue crayon marking and therefore before the sealing tape!

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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby LuzA » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:48 pm

GassmannP wrote:hmm, the Neuhausen postmark is on top of everything (applied as last marking)

The blue (crayon) markings have been applied before the sealing tape, but after the red number (on top of the red number, goes below the sealing tape)

The red number has been applied after the chemical ink markings, but before the blue crayon marking and therefore before the sealing tape!

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Good evening,

Fine answers.
That said... could those red, blue and black numbers be any kind of control marks? (I am thinking in the chemical control or even in the registered mail)
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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby LuzA » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:28 am

Good evening,

Just a brief note to say that, as a reference about the censorship rules in Bermuda, the General Order nÂș47, Section XVI, June/1941, established that the registered mail would have a distinctive code number applied "centrally" to the reverse... etc.

These matters are explained in FLYNN (2006:88). Intercepted in Bermuda / The Censorship of Transatlantic Mail During the Second World War [...].

Regarding these code numbers Flynn also referred the red ink for the Bermuda and the purple for USA. The USA code number of the cover showed in page 88 (circulated in 1943/44) also have one letter ("c" crossed by a vertical line) after the number.
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Re: US / San Juan: Numbers on back of censored covers

Postby GassmannP » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:10 pm

interesting! I do not have other material to follow-up on this topic, would be interesting if a US censorship specialist can dig up something.
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